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	<title>Primary Rifle</title>
	<description>These are the topics about self defense rifles</description>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:04:37 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>.22 Lever Action</title>
		<link>http://www.yourcivildefense.com/board/index.php?showtopic=1248</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I recently went on a 'survival campout' with my friend, an eagle scout, with his troop. I typically go on any of the campouts they set up, but was particularly interested in this one because of the nature of it. We were supposed to construct a shelter, fire, and make food with the following (give or take, it's been a while):<br /><ul><li>Tarp</li><li>1 trashbag per person</li><li>1 .99 cent crappy emergency blanket per person</li><li>Can w/holes for use as stove</li><li>cotton balls w/ petrol. jelly</li><li>flint + steel, other firestarting methods</li><li>Twine/rope</li><li>carrots, eggs, chicken, cooking water</li></ul><br /><br />I know this sounds like a lot of stuff for a survival campout, and it is, but the shelter was the hardest part. Not because constructing it was particularly difficult, but because the condensation and other variables (like the cold weather) made sleep impossible. We ended up getting about two hours of sleep by abandoning our shelter and curling up near a campfire some of the other troop members had set up. While we were technically supposed to remain isolated from the other members, it isn't unreasonable to assume one could construct a simple open fire (in a pit of course) in a survival situation. So after our two hours of crappy sleep and very little for breakfast (1 hardboiled egg/person) we set off on about a 10 mile hike, to learn navigation and get to our destination. For this we were given a map of the area, and a compass. In addition we had 'checkpoints' along the way that helped us find our destination (we didn't know where it was at the outset). After getting a bit sidetracked and meeting up with the others we got some real food and made our way to the finale, the shooting range. This was my first time ever shooting a firearm, and what I was most looking forward to. Over the course of a few hours I shot the following weapons at paper plates, and hanging metal plates that were about 4x4" and 1/4" thick. There were also a few that were smaller than this. The first thing we did was a .22 contest.<br /><br />It was apparently sponsored by a firearms company, Winchester I think, and possibly the NRA, I can't remember for sure. Here's the challenge.<br /><br />You had to shoot the center of 5 paper plates 5 times with either a .22 revolver or .22 semiauto pistol from about 20 feet. At first I thought this would be fairly easy, but it proved more difficult than I had determined. With someone calling out where my shots were going I improved rapidly and completed the challenge. I was given a few patches with the word 'marksmen' on them for completing it. After the challenge I shot the other various weapons including:<br /><br />.22 semi-auto pistol<br />.22 revolver<br />.357 revolver in both .38 and .357<br />SKS<br />M1 Carbine (.30 cal?)<br />9mm (had maybe a 2" barrel, don't remember the make)<br />1911 .45 ACP<br />.22 pump action<br />.22 bolt action<br />.22 lever action<br /><br />The firearms were loaded for us and of all the ones I shot my favorites were the .357 in .38, the M1, and the .22 lever action. In case you were wondering or to clarify, I'm a 17 year old guy, about 5' 7", 110 lbs, and left-handed. I absolutely loved shooting the lever action and was wondering whether this would make a reasonable first gun in about two months when I become an adult. I live outside of Kansas City, Kansas, and I'm also interested in the legality and/or proccess of actually buying a firearm. I know .22 is cheap, and have heard it's a good gun for beginners, but how common are lever-action variants? Are there any other suggestions, or advice you'd like to give me?<br /><br />Thanks and sorry about the lengthy post,<br /><br />- Snakedoc]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 14:25:48 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Mosin Nagant</title>
		<link>http://www.yourcivildefense.com/board/index.php?showtopic=1231</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I've been looking at purchasing a bolt action rifle, specifically from World War II. The first rifle that comes to mind is the Mosin Nagant. This would be my first rifle and first purchase of a weapon in general. I've read up on what to look for, what to avoid, how to ID the markings to see what factory it came from etc. <br /><br />What I really want is your guys input. What is accuracy like with a decent bore (both counter-bored and non counter-bored), any problems to expect in short term and long term perspectives. You know just general user input.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 02:06:25 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Pump Shotties</title>
		<link>http://www.yourcivildefense.com/board/index.php?showtopic=1201</link>
		<description>So i recently purchased a Mossberg 500 and personally i am very impressed with the way it shoots and also its durability, ive never had a problem with shell feed (unlike the 870.) I also got a heat shield and a Side Saddle so i can hold the shells on the weapon instead of in a pouch away from easier access.</description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 00:54:28 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>SCAR 16S Range Pics and Report</title>
		<link>http://www.yourcivildefense.com/board/index.php?showtopic=1200</link>
		<description><![CDATA[First, the eye candy:<br /><img src="http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/Alpha-17/Real%20Steel/SCARRangeShoot040.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/Alpha-17/Real%20Steel/SCARRangeShoot049.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/Alpha-17/Real%20Steel/SCARRangeShoot047.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/Alpha-17/Real%20Steel/SCARRangeShoot042.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/Alpha-17/Real%20Steel/SCARRangeShoot046.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/Alpha-17/Real%20Steel/SCARRangeShoot043.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/Alpha-17/Real%20Steel/SCARRangeShoot044.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/Alpha-17/Real%20Steel/SCARRangeShoot069.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/Alpha-17/Real%20Steel/SCARRangeShoot067.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/Alpha-17/Real%20Steel/SCARRangeShoot061.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/Alpha-17/Real%20Steel/SCARRangeShoot051.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><img src="http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/Alpha-17/Real%20Steel/SCARRangeShoot050.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><br /><br />Now, the report:<br /><br />First impressions were favorable.  The weapon is light and comfortable, with similar ergonomics to an AR.  The muscle memory is the same, with only one major feature (the charging handle) in a different location, and even there it is a common-sense location.  The FN factory mag looks OK, but other than the color and a MagPul looking follower, it looks and feels just like any USGI mag.  I decided to compliment it with several MagPul P-Mags, some with windows, some without.  I found that they will not drop free when released, but that's not an issue, as I'd rather not drop mags I'm paying for!  Only other issue with using them is that when loaded, you can't use the charging handle as a bolt release.  USGI/FN factory mags work in this regard, but P-Mags do not.  Again, not much of an issue, but just an interesting little fact.  The buttstock is very adjustable, and I found it more comfortable than most M4 buttstocks.  The adjustable cheek rest was nice too, as it really helps get a good check-to-stock weld, and you can see in the pictures, a great "hot dog roll". <br /><br />Shooting was excellent.  Its similar to shooting an AR/M4, but at the same time, different.  Whereas all movement in an M4 is in the ass-end of the gun, on the SCAR its towards the front.  Oddest part, I'm not bothered by this at all.  Different, but certainly OK.  Kinky, I guess ( <img src="http://www.yourcivildefense.com/board/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />  )  I used 62 grain SS-109 FMJ ammo, trying to get as close to M855 Ball, so the zero would be the same.  I also used some 55 grain M193 ammo later in the day, and it fuctioned fine with that too.  The zeroing process was interesting, but for different reasons.  The iron sights provided were set for way low, like on the bottom of the page at 25m.  After what seemed like an endless series of spins, I finally got the front sight post lowered down enough, and the rear one adjsuted, and had a rough zero for the rifle.  I co-witnessed the EOTech to the irons, and started zeroing that, using an Army EoTech zero target.  That was fine, but the one of the adjustments on my EOTech is wrong (the directions take it the opposite way), and I kept forgetting which one it was, thus my problems.   Eventually, I had a rough zero, and decided to have fun.  Recoil is noticeable less than with an M4.  Don't know why, but it is.  Double taps and controlled pairs were easy, and the trigger pull was very smooth.  Can't say enough good things about it.  <br /><br />Malfunctions: I actually had one.  Let me explain; the SCAR was slightly dirty when I bought it, and I didn't bother to lube it at all before shooting.  We were about 330 rounds into shooting when my buddy had a malfunction.  He tried to describe it to me, but it basically sounded like the bolt didn't close all the way.  He dropped the mag, a round fell out, reinserted the mag, and started blasting.  I wish I'd seen it, and documented exactly what had gone wrong, but it was with a P-Mag, and  could be anything.  Still, by the end of the day, we had fired almost 400 rounds of various types, and we had a total of 1 malfunction.  A helluva lot better than I've done with any M16 or M4 I've ever fired.<br /><br />Cleaning was a breeze.  Just disassembled the weapon, and wiped it all down.  Very similar to a SAW in that regard.  The star-chamber, by far the worst part to clean on an M4, was relatively easy, as it is much bigger, and I could easily get my finger in there to clean it out.<br /><br />Overall, I absolutely love my new SCAR.  I plan on getting an EOTech magnifier for it, and look forward to shooting it again.  Best way to describe my feelings on it are to say I had a Gungasim shooting it.   <img src="http://www.yourcivildefense.com/board/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />Also took my ParaOrdance P14.45 LDA out, and like always, it functioned flawlessly.  Hopefully I'll be getting my concealed carry while I'm home on leave, and I'll be adding a Springfield Champion GI to my collection.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:03:23 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>M1A/M14 battle stock experiance?</title>
		<link>http://www.yourcivildefense.com/board/index.php?showtopic=953</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I got a Springfield Armory M1A Scout a while back, and now I'm looking toward upgrading it with one of the "enhanced battle rifle stocks" that are currently available (I've been spoiled by the M4, and now I need rails to mount stuff).  Does anyone have experience with VLTOR, Troy, or Sage's stocks?  I'm currently leaning towards Troy's Chassis, but as it is the priciest of the three, I'm not sure.  Any help would be appreciated.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:54:56 -0600</pubDate>
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		<title>HEADS UP! ONE DAY SALE! WASR 10 $469.95</title>
		<link>http://www.yourcivildefense.com/board/index.php?showtopic=907</link>
		<description><![CDATA[one day special on the century RI1188 wasr-10 for $469.95 if anyone needs one... <br /><br />www.peachstateguns.com]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 23:17:02 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>M16 Information.</title>
		<link>http://www.yourcivildefense.com/board/index.php?showtopic=896</link>
		<description><![CDATA[The post is to help dismiss possible misleading information posted about the M16/A2.  The following information is taken from Army Study Guide.  I did edit it to reflect direct statements instead of questions.  More information can be found in FM 3-22.9 if you need it.<br />   <br />M16/A2 Rifle is described as:<br />A 5.56 mm, magazine fed, gas-operated, air-cooled, semiautomatic or three-round burst, hand-held, shoulder-fired weapon.<br /><br />The 7 types of ammunition that can be used with the M16/A2 Rifle are: <ol type='1'><li>M193 – Ball</li><li>M196 – Trace</li><li>M199 – Dummy</li><li>M200 – Blank (Violet tip and 7 petal rose crimp)</li><li>M855 – Ball (Green Tip)</li><li>M856 – Tracer (Red Tip)</li><li>M862 – Short Range Training Ammunition (Plastic with a Blue Tip)</li></ol><br /><br />The four steps required in order to mechanically zero the M16/A2 are:<ol type='1'><li>Adjust the front sight post up or down until the base of the front sight post is flush with the front sight post housing.</li><li>Adjust the elevation knob counterclockwise, as viewed from above, until the rear sight assembly rests flush with the carrying handle and the 8/3 marking is aligned with the index line on the left side of the carrying handle.</li><li>Position the apertures so the unmarked aperture is up and the 0-200 meter aperture is down. Rotate the windage knob to align the index mark on the 0-200 meter aperture with the long center index line on the rear sight assembly.</li></ol><br />The steps required in order to battlesight zero the M16/A2 are:<ol type='1'><li>Adjust the elevation knob counterclockwise, as viewed from above, until the rear sight assembly rests flush with the carrying handle and the 8/3 marking is aligned with the index line on the left side of the carrying handle. Then adjust the elevation knob one more click clockwise.</li><li> Position the apertures so the unmarked aperture is up and the 0-200 meter aperture is down. Rotate the windage knob to align the index mark on the 0-200 meter aperture with the long center index line on the rear sight assembly.</li></ol><br />The weight of the M16/A2 Rifle are:<br /><ul><li>Without Magazine and Sling - 7.78 pounds</li><li>With Sling and a loaded 20 round magazine - 8.48 pounds</li><li>With Sling and a loaded 30 round magazine - 8.79 pounds</li></ul>The max effective rates of fire for the M16/A2 Rifle are: <ul><li>Semiautomatic - 45 rounds per minute</li><li>Burst - 90 rounds per minute</li><li>Sustained - 12-15 rounds per minute</li></ul>The muzzle velocity of the M16/A2:<br />3,100feet per second<br /><br />The ranges for the M16/A2 Rifle are:<br /><ul><li>Maximum Range - 3,600 meters</li><li>Max Effective Range for a Point Target - 550 meters</li><li>Max Effective Range for an Area Target - 800 meters</li></ul><br />The Barrel Rifling for the M16/A2 Rifle: Right hand twist 1/7<br /><br /><br />The basic load of ammunition for the M16/A2 Rifle is:  210 Rounds total.  (7 magazines with 30 rounds in each)<br /><br />The elevation knob adjusts the point of aim for the M16A2 Rifle from 300 to 800 meters.<br />The overall length of the M16/A2 Rifle is: 39.63inches<br /><br />The 8 steps in the functioning (principle of operation) of the M16/A2 rifle are: <ol type='1'><li>Feeding</li><li>Chambering</li><li>Locking</li><li>Firing</li><li>Unlocking</li><li>Extracting</li><li>Ejecting</li><li>Cocking</li></ol><br />The procedures for clearing the M16/A2 Rifle are:<ul><li>Point the muzzle in a designated SAFE DIRECTION. Attempt to place selector lever on SAFE. If weapon is not cocked, lever cannot be placed on SAFE.</li><li>Remove the magazine by depressing the magazine catch button and pulling the magazine down.</li><li>To lock bolt open,pull charging handle rearward. Press bottom of bolt catch and allow bolt to move forward until it engages bolt catch. Return charging handle to full forward position. If you have not done so before, place the selector lever on SAFE.</li><li>Visually (not physically) inspect the receiver and chamber to ensure these areas contain no ammo.</li><li>With the select or lever pointing toward SAFE, allow the bolt to go forward by pressing the upper portion of the bolt catch.</li><li>Place the select or lever on SEMI and squeeze the trigger.</li><li>Pull the charging handle fully rearward and release it, allowing the bolt to return to the full forward position.</li><li>Place the select or lever on SAFE.</li><li>Close the ejection port cover.</li></ul><br />A functions check on the M16/A2 Rifle is preform by doing the following:<ol type='1'><li> Place  the selector lever on safe.  If the  selector switch will not go on safe, pull the charging handle to the rear  and release.  Place the selector  lever on safe.  Pull the trigger to  the rear, the hammer should not fall.</li><li>Place  the selector lever on semi.  Pull  the trigger to the rear and hold.   The hammer should fall.   While holding the trigger to the rear, pull the charging handle to  the rear and release.  Release the  trigger and pull it to the rear again.   The hammer should fall.</li><li>Place  the selector lever on burst.  Pull  the charging handle to the rear and release.  Pull the trigger to the rear and  hold.  The hammer should fall. While  holding the trigger to the rear, pull the charging handle to the rear  three times and release.  Release  the trigger and pull it to the rear again.   The hammer should fall.</li><li>Charge weapon again and place on safe.</li></ol>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 20:52:10 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Relatively Cheap AR-15</title>
		<link>http://www.yourcivildefense.com/board/index.php?showtopic=882</link>
		<description><![CDATA[So basically, the title says it all, I'm looking for a cost-effective AR-15 with a 16 inch barrel. I'm not to picky, just looking for a new rifle. Thanks.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 21:29:08 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>SKS options?</title>
		<link>http://www.yourcivildefense.com/board/index.php?showtopic=844</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Since I for see myself receiving some money, I have decided to upgrade my stock on my SKS. I currently have a synthetic Monte Carlo stock and want to up grade it to the Dragunov stock found here - <a href="http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0018850210500a&type=product&cmCat=froogle&cm_ven=data_feed&cm_cat=froogle&cm_pla=0420203&cm_ite=0018850210500a" target="_blank">Click </a><br /><br />Now the main question I have is, will the stock able to accept my 30rd mag and feed correctly?<br /><br />I dont want to drop the cash and have a the same problem I have now with the feed issue, but I do love the look of the Dragunov stock.<br /><br />My next option is mags.  If and when I do buy the Dragunov stock, I do want a few more mags.  <a href="http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0043321228516a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH_all&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&Ntt=sks&Ntk=Products&sort=all&Go.y=0&_D%3AhasJS=+&N=0&_D%3Asort=+&Nty=1&hasJS=true&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form1&Go.x=0&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1" target="_blank">This pair</a> runs somewhere around 40-50 bucks.  However, Tapco has a mag that is made for composite stocks - <a href="http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0054092229109a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH_all&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&Ntt=sks&Ntk=Products&sort=all&Go.y=0&_D%3AhasJS=+&N=0&_D%3Asort=+&Nty=1&hasJS=true&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form1&Go.x=0&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1" target="_blank">Here</a> and run 20 bucks a piece.  <br /><br />What is your guys opinion on this.  If you have any suggestions please let me know.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:51:40 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Free NRA Membership</title>
		<link>http://www.yourcivildefense.com/board/index.php?showtopic=827</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Jugg's says: "DO IT NOW!" <img src="http://www.yourcivildefense.com/board/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="B)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" /> <br /><br /><a href="http://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/" target="_blank">http://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:09:05 -0500</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.yourcivildefense.com/board/index.php?showtopic=827</guid>
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