Bug Out Kits/Bags. Options

[nunnally04]

1 - Medium ALICE pack. Cheap, reasonably comfortable, and easy to find.
2 - go with light weight civvy clothes. Look into 5.11 tactical or something similar...
3 - socks. Merino wool. Warm / cool and wicking. Any brand. Go Wool.
4 - Gerber. They make a camping saw that slides into its own handle. I've carried one of these for years. Also, great warranty...
5 - Are you digging a shallow grave??? Ditch it.
6 - I carry (in my BOB) a firesteel and some Triox tabs.
7 - Suck it up. If you're worried about West Nile, things are good...
8 - 20 yds 20 lbs and some hooks, and split shot. Think fishing, not deep water trawling...
9 - Put it on a USB drive... (more to follow...) Also, READ and remember. Perfect practice makes perfect.
10 - YES!!! LOCAL topos and a compass. GPS as a backup... (batteries die)
11 - Brush your teeth, carry some baby wipes as a quick whore bath.
12 - You'll die w/o water. Sweetwater microfilter and MSR MIOXX tabs. Get a container to put your H2O in too... Camelbak bladder or a colapsable container... You don't want to filter 1 qt of H2O at a time...
13 - Yup, you'll need that too... If you go MRE's, strip them to save weight / space. They have a lot of crap you don't need...
14 - Covered in #12. Drop in a couple bottles of H2O for the interim...
15 - Embrace the suck.
16 - YES! 50 ft is a great start.
17 - Where do you live? Avg temp? Hi / Low? Space vs. Weight. A bag is great gear, but takes up space quickly. Make sure you need it. (Think BO location, conditions, space, etc...) Not saying dontdo it, but be conservative...
18 - Again, YES. This is one of your BIG 3s. Go for light, convenience and availability of fuel. Look into alcohol stoves. Make one. (Contact me, I'll teach you...)


You have the right idea. Good on ya. A little tweaking and you'll have it.

A BOB is tailored to the individual. What may be right for me may not work for you. The important thing is the the big 3. FOOD, WATER, and SHELTER. Everything else is gravy.

I look forward to expanding on this topic...


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Thanks alot man, but because of where I live I'm going to have to fight my way out, and I can't stay put. A shovel is very important IMO, burying waste (human and trash), fire pit, etc. West Nile is a pretty big problem around here (idk why) there have been many sick, and a few die. Rain equipment, IMO, is needed, its not that hard to get pnumonia, etc. I need to update my bag, cause I'm almost finished, just need food, filter (and tablets), alot of 550 cord, and an atlas (map w/e).

This post has been edited by nunnally04: Jan 24 2009, 04:33 PM

[12g]

-NBC mask
-MRE fuel packs
-disposable lighter
-matches in water proof capsule
-Magnesium fire starter
-Mylar Blankets
-Compass
-Cold Steel spike
-Swiss Army pocket knife
-Soap,razor, shaving cream, comb, toothbrush/toothpaste
-Towels that expand when you add water
-some moist towelettes
-Drop Pouch on the side for misc. stuff
-Mtech 10 inch tanto knife
-Polycarbonate Water bottle

-Added a flashlight, usb drive, and some vitiams

Extra food, clothes, and water will be thrown in a back pack when its time to bug out.

This post has been edited by 12g: Jan 31 2009, 06:21 PM

[daviecroket]

top three pics are bug out bag, fourth is my personal bug out vest thing.
any questions feel free to ask.

[nunnally04]

Well...my bag ripped...apparently the way I had my clothes packed (compressed in 2 zip lock bags) the bags let air out and the clothes got larger...and well you can figure out the rest...


Point is I need a new bag...money right now isn't a problem because I want the best I can get (and this is where all my money is going), but I would like to stay around $100-about $150. I'm looking on eBay now at this. Tell me what you think. Especially from those of you (military) that have used it when it counts. Or used it period really...

My "requirements" for a BOB is more of a ruck bag for getting WAAAAYYY out of dodge. So with this, I'll be able to get EVERYTHING I need, plus some extra food/water/etc.

This post has been edited by nunnally04: Jun 18 2009, 12:09 PM

[Tasco]

Its a great 'starter' bag IMO. I use a DCU one when I deploy and it works out the way I need it. However, if you need to pack everything to include the kitchen sink, then no, you need a larger one. I would look around a bit more and see if you can find a ALICE pack. You can never go wrong with an ALICE.

[12g]

Yeah u can find a surplus Alice pack on ebay with frame for about $50, which is a pretty good deal.

[nunnally04]

I got a big MountainSmith (3500 cubic inches). I know that doesn't sound like a lot, but it has the mesh at the bottom to carry a sleeping bag/tent/etc. I put my tent, sleeping bag, and pillow in it. So when you take into account it has 3500 cu. for everything else (food, water, clothes, etc) its a lot. I'll take pics when I get a few Mountian Houses (Tried one, beef strogenoff with noodles) and cliff protein bars (once again tried and liked).


Other than food (that I can think of) all I have left to get is a water filter (I'm thinking katadyn?) and my bag will be completed.

[Alpha-17]

First of all, understand that the picture was taken during an airsoft game, so the weapons pictured aren't real. However, they do have real-steel counterparts.



Kit List:

Base Layer:
TruSpec MultiCam Combat Shirt
TruSpec MultiCam ACU pants
Okley Half Jacket shooting glasses
US Army Issue Summer Boots
Hatch SOG Operator Gloves

Fist Line:
Specialty Defense Systems ACH w/TruSpec MultiCam cover
Paraclete RBAV 07 w/Issue ESAPI plates, and MSA Paraclete BALCS soft armor inserts
Serpa 1911 Holster w/Mag pouch
MultiCam Drop leg panel w/TacTailor Double Pistol mag pouch and ATS Medical Pouch w/Army IFAK supplies
Altama MultiCam Knee Pads

Second Line (front)
ATS MultiCam Roll-up dump pouch
3 TacTailor 7.62 Shingles
Double Condor 7.62 Shingle
TacTailor Smoke Grenade Pouch
Paraclete GP pouch
TacTailor Triple Pistol Mag Pouch

Second Line (back):
TacTailor Hydration Bladder Pouch w/Camel Bak hydration Bladder
Gerber Infantry Survival Knife
NorthEast Tactical MOLLE mounted Single Point Sling
Tru-Spec Radio Pouch

The weapons I have for use with this are a Springfield Armory M1A Scout, and a ParaOrdance P14.45 LDA. Currently saving up for a Troy Industries Chassis for the M14 (anyone with experience, advise would be appreciated).

Say it, I'm a MultiCam fanboy.

This post has been edited by Alpha-17: Nov 6 2009, 09:44 PM

[Wayneard3413]

Looks like a pretty well thought out kit... Although I am not a fan of stuff on my legs


I will have to update with some new pics of how I am running my kit now

[Tasco]

Updated Pics -

My Camelbak BFM:

LEFT SIDE


RIGHT SIDE


MAIN POCKET OPEN


CONTENTS OF MAIN POCKET


Left side down:
Ballistic Eye Wear
Woodland Rain Jacket
Danner Hot Weather Boots

Right side down:
Silk Top
Silk Bottom
1 Set of BDU's with Belt

Back side of Main Pocket (mesh net area)


Contents of zip lock bag:


Left to Right:
Fleece Hat
Brown Rag
3 Pairs of Boxer Briefs
3 Pairs of Black Boot Socks

Hyginie Bag:


Left to Right:
Shampoo
Clippers
Baby Wipes
Tooth Brush
Deoderant
Micro Fiber Towel
Toilet Paper
Soap
Toothpaste
Carrier

Secondary Pouch:


Contents of Secondary Pouch:


Left to Right:
Map of Missouri
All Weather Pad
5 Blue Chem-Lights
Pens, Penceils, Marker
5" Boot Knife
Pouch with 1 Double M9 Mag Pouch
SW99 9mm with 2 Mags
Zip Lock Bag with 50 9mm Rounds
Pelcan Flashlight
Pouch - Asst. Food

Bottom Pouch (not pictured) Contents:


First Aid Kit (housed on left side of bag)


Contents of First Aid Kit:
IFAK with a few extra goodies.



There you have it, my updated bag.

[Alpha-17]

After a lot of thought, I've finally settled on the bag, and for the most part, what to put in it. My intention is for the BOB to sustain me for 3 days or so. Here's what I've got thus far:

CamelBak TriZip, w/100oz bladder


The Stuff I have now


Left Side pocket, holding 100ft of tan 550 cord, and 4 bungie cords


Right side pocket, w/water proof matches and water proof case, eating utensils, AA batteries, three bottles of Iodine pills, and a few silver coins.


Top of bag:


Main compartment. Left side: Light weight snivel gear, Trioxane fuel tablets. Center: 4 stripped MREs, MultiCam BDU pants, 2 pair USGI boot socks. Right: Holy Bible, tan T-shirt, brown T-shirt.


I still need to get:
1-2 more stripped MREs
4-6 energy bars/power bars
Small map of NC
Gerber or Leatherman multi-tool
Small flashlight (either Surefire or Streamlight)
batteries for flashlight
compass
More water proof batteries
Knife or Machete
Head lamp with red light capability
Weapons cleaning kit, w/oil, bore snake, and rag
Baby wipes
tooth brush and tooth paste
1-quart canteen and canteen cup (in 1 Quart MOLLE pouch attached to outside)
Pocket sized wire saw
Pen and small notebook
Mag pouches for 2 1911 .45 mags, and 4 PMags

Anything major I'm forgetting?

[Ice4600]

I've been designing my BoB for a little while and wanted to run it past you guys. I'm going for a completely modular design that will let me grab exactly what I'll need for the situation and go within 10 minutes. Each section can be housed in relatively small waterproof containers which I will mark for easy identification and use. Nothing would be worse than needing a suture kit and having to look through 30 pounds of other gear to find it. Obviously most sections of stuff will be taken no matter what, but the specialized stuff would only be taken if the situation called for it (natural disaster, terrorist attack, SHTF, etc as well as summer vs winter). Very few items on my list have brand names and are actual products only because I haven't had time to search out exactly what to buy. I'd rather do this in person though, opposed to online because product reviews can only tell me so much and I'd rather see first hand what my life will depend on. Since I'm only 17 I can't legally purchase firearms but I'm definitely well acquainted to them and rather knowledgeable on the subject so I've looked into those as well. I'm designing this as a single large pack to carry with additional (small) storage on myself. There will also be a secondary bag that the person I'm with would carry and would house the specialized equipment if needed. This is what I've planned so far:

//PRIMARY PACK//


==General Survival/Navigation==
Compass
Complete US Army Survival Guide (for plant details and such)
Maps of prospected area with planned routes and waypoints
2 Way radios
Emergency radio (solar hopefully)
Paracord
Flares
Mirror
Chemical lights


==Gear==
Large pack with waistband, external pouches and pockets
Canteens
Drop-leg holster and sheath


==Clothing==
Full changes of clothes vacuum sealed (for compact size and waterproofing)
Extra socks
Thermal underwear
Overcoats (winter requiring)


==Tools/Blades==
Bowie/Survival Knife
- Basic hilt survival kit
Folding Knife
Multitool
Hatchet
Pocket Chainsaw


==Food/Water==
Water purification system
- Filters
- Tablets
metal vessel for cooking or boiling water (doubles as storage container)
Non perishable compact foods
- Energy bars
- Boulion Cubes
- Stripped MRE's
Fishing kit


==First Aid== (am I missing anything?)
Suture kit
medical tape
splints
bandages
gauze
disinfecting solution
Pain releivers
blood clotter


==Shelter/Fire== (incomplete, help?)
Camouflage tarps
Emergency Blanket
Waterproof matches
lighter
Magnesium Firestarter


==Maintanence==
Gun cleaning kit
Sharpening Stone


==Misc==
Duct Tape
Tooth brush/paste
Bar soap


\\SECONDARY PACK\\ - Extended time, treacherous terrain, actively hostile environment


==Climbing== (These are things I'll own anyway as I've become more interested in the sport of climbing, and will give an advantage if bugging out to mountains.)
Climbing Rope
Carabiners
Harnesses
Belay Devices


==Camouflage== (If the area becomes actively hostile, I'd like to have sufficient camouflage and I'd use them for airsoft skirmishes before SHTF anyway so no waste.)
Ghillie suits
Ghillie netting
Face paint


==Shelter== (Winters can be bad here and where I'll go to college, so I'd like to be prepared for the -20 windchills, but only if necessary. Definitely bulky gear.)
Compact tent
Winter sleeping bags
Heavy blankets


==Tools== (Can't hurt, but I don't want to have to carry these unless I know I'll use them.)
Entrenchment Tool


//WEAPONS// (again, not of legal age yet but I know my stuff and this is what I'm looking at. Glock may be replaced with a 1911 depending on money)

Remmington M700
- .300 Win Mag
- Scope

Springfield Armory M1A
- 7.62x51 NATO
- Scope

Glock 17
- 9mm Parabellum
- Tac Light

Compound Bow
- Field Point Arrows
- Broadhead Arrows

Please criticize and help, its always appreciated.